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December

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Posted on December 28, 2012 by

Overview

DrawingThis past year was different to the previous ones because we finally started bringing in other professionals to share the plan with.  Confessing what I planned to do made it all more real.  In exchange for bringing people in, I had to relinquish some control, which was also a bit of a stress for me.  But I have to admit that having someone else do all the work of drawing the elevation views did free me up to think about details…

I some times think of it as “paying for friends to talk about stuff you like”, kind of sad and it didn’t really work out as collaboratively as I had hoped.   And since I am paying most of them, I could never really trust their affirmation that I was sane ;^).

The plan had been to start construction during Q3, 2012.  It didn’t work out, primarily due to delays with the engineer (who slowed down the architect because he was waiting for the architect).

If those delays had a silver lining, it was that they gave us more time to figure things out and time to set aside even more money for the build.  It also gave me time to meet Scott who was building his own earth shelter near Battle Creek and I learned some valuable things there.  I guess I will just keep right on learning things and improving the design, but at some point, I would like to start building and let the mistakes fall where they may.  My wife and I just had a little discussion about what could put off our plans to start in 2013…  That list of hurdles may be a good New Years post.  In the mean time, here is our year end update…

Plans

I went to the architects last April with a pretty complete idea of what I wanted to build.  I wanted help with the construction drawings and I wanted to get some perspective and collaboration.  The drawings are coming, and I certainly appreciate how delegating that task has freed up my time for details.  Collaboration (which I define as “talking thru ideas to come up with a better than either of us would have come up on our own) was elusive, but they did add a few good features to improve the design.

For instance, I had originally designed the front of the house with three concrete sunshades, but the architect combined them into a single one that really helped unify the front of the house.  He also improved the way the hall passed the sun room for better flow, adjusted the extent of the two smaller vaults for better rhythm and a few other things.  Some times, these changes caused problems that were left un-fixed… For instance, the combination of changing the way the hall went thru the sun room and adjusting the location for the end of the vault over the sun-room left us with a very undefined ceiling and load paths that hung in mid air.  I asked them about that for months without an answer.

Mid November, my architect mentioned that he thought his assistant had taken care of all our complaints and question and they were almost done…  I didn’t think so, so I went thru my emails (over 100 of them) and collected all the un-resolved issues into a ppt slide deck 21 slides long.   I mercifully broke things up so that each slide focused on only one sheet of the drawing.

These are sketches of the storm room that I got from the architect.  He never explained any of them to me (no collaboration)

These are sketches of the storm room that I got from the architect. He never explained any of them to me (no collaboration)

Some of the slides were short, such as the slide for the title sheet that simply pointed out an incorrect note about the foundations…  but other slides were quite long and detailed and included many points and drawings about various concerns that I had been waiting for answers to…  The architects took it pretty well, but over a month later, they are still working their way thru the corrections (and have not actually fixed that silly note on the title sheet) and have not gotten back to me on even one third of the questions.

The design development for the storm room never really got anywhere although the architect did send me a few sketches.  Perhaps these designs were not what I was looking for, or perhaps I was just looking for collaboration (an interactive back and forth exchange), but I didn’t like any of them.   I wanted something that would unify the design of the house, and I didn’t think any of these ideas did that…  Eventually this December, I sat down with my pencil crayons and solved a number of these problems so I could just present my solutions to the architects so we could move forward.

Our architect also drew up some quick 3D sketches.  We ruled them out for various reasons.

Our architect’s assistant also drew up some quick 3D sketches. We ruled them out for various reasons.

 

My wife and I met with the architect and his assistant the Friday before Christmas.  We showed our latest sketches for the “storm room” (the tower on the top of the house that will let us view 360 degrees of weather), and the structure for the entry and sun room (aka “green house”, but that would be hyperbole).  We also discussed our new window list and answered questions about the HVAC layout (ventilation actually).  While there, the assistant quickly modeled up something in 3D CAD (rhino3D) for the storm room and also showed us an interesting 3D model of the entry way in order to propose a new feature.  We liked his suggestion and are hopeful that the plans will actually be completed within a month or two, at least with the architect.

I am quite a bit more concerned about the engineer since we haven’t heard anything from him in over 7 weeks.  I will check up on his progress in early January.  The biggest mistake with the engineer was expecting too much collaboration instead of just validation.  I am sure it was frustrating for him since “collaboration” is not easy to estimate.  Now that I am neck deep, I wish I had been more specific about what I expected him to bring to the team, and I would have expected a lower price tag with that reduced uncertainty.

 

Sourcing

This past month, we meet again with Marvin windows and Pella windows.   Again, perhaps collaboration is a bit too much to expect from a window company…  But that really is what we wanted.   We originally planned on Marvin because they were one of the few American window companies that produced low-E glass with high solar heat gain.  They also had “push out” casement windows that I preferred to the crank outs… And they had very wide casement windows (possible due to their aluminum extrusion construction), french windows, more size flexibility, etc.  I totally ignored Pella for my first round, along with other “big box” brands.

Sherri and I never really liked the Marvin reps in our area.  Some never did get back to us with a quote (even though I visited several times) and the ones who did were a bit too pushy.  We got pretty far into the process with one location (that will remain nameless to protect the guilty).  Maybe it was just a generational thing, but we didn’t like their sales technique or how they talked to us without giving us useful information.  They used lots of phrases like “of course you want to buy the best”…  When I asked about how the features of a window affected the price, they kept saying they “hardly matter”.  For instance, I wanted to understand the difference between the cost of a round top casement and a regular casement mulled with a fixed arch top transom…  I knew the opening round top window would be more, but I wanted to understand how much more.  They went on and on about how I certainly wouldn’t want to even consider the fixed transom option, how it wouldn’t go with the style of the house and that the round top wouldn’t be much more expensive anyway…  Well a few days later when I finally got the price for each, I found the round-top was quite a lot more expensive.  Again, perhaps it was just their age, but they always acted like getting a price on anything would be a huge amount of effort and I had to come in to see them because it was difficult to get the quotes into an email…

In contrast, the Pella rep was very likable.  She understood that we wanted to understand the pricing so we could make good decisions.  She also joked that she was a part time marriage counselor  a roll we found she was pretty good at.  Every time we wanted to know a price for something, she would just enter it into her computer various different ways so we could see the effect.  This was enormously helpful.  She built the window list on her computer right in front of us.  We could see the options she was entering and ask her about adjustments, etc.  For instance, while the Marvin rep had hardly said anything about Tempered glass or given us the rules for it, the Pella rep explained all the rules (so we could design around them) and showed us the resulting price difference.  When she didn’t know something, she was frank with us and took a note for later…

Some of the windows from our window schedule.  The shape of W3 and the width of W4 were only available from Marvin

Some of the windows from our window schedule. The shape of W3 and the width of W4 were only available from Marvin

The quotes we had received from Marvin had ruled out the push out casements (double the price), along with French casements (quadruple the price).  We also found out that Pella now had the passive solar gain glass that we wanted.   We were down to a couple “special” windows forcing us into Pella…  These were a half arch top (W3) and its neighboring 40″ wide casement (W4) (Pella topped out at 35″ wide).   Not only would we have to pay the much higher Marvin price for these two windows (x2 for symmetry), but we would need to buy all the windows from Marvin (even the ordinary ones) and it actually more than doubled the overall cost of the window package.  Sherri and I liked the look of W3, it was one of the enhancements the architect added when he put the wide sunshade across the front of the house, but it wasn’t worth adding more than $30K to the cost of the home.  Neither was having W4 be 40 inches instead of 35.

 

Here is the window arrangement for the front of the house.  W3 tucks under the sunshade.  It is really a single window with a faux mull (to save money).  We decided to save even more money by making it a rectangle.  W4, the casement next to W3, would lose 7 inches of width.

Here is the window arrangement for the front of the house. W3 tucks under the sunshade. It is really a single window with a faux mull (to save money). We decided to save even more money by making it a rectangle. W4, the casement next to W3, would lose 7 inches of width.

We decided to make the switch to Pella.  We worked with the rep to adjust our window schedule to standard Pella sizes and tool that list into the architect.  One non “brand” change we made was for the 3 part windows at the ends of the vaults (W12)…  Each of the 3 sections costs the same price as a full width window of the same overall area, but the wall curvature forced us to break it into 3 sections.  The W12 combo of 3 windows was nearly $4K; since there were 6 of these, that would add up to a big headache.   We decided to reduce the height and have only the single central arch top for about 1/4 the price.

A CAD drawing of the rib, done by the engineer.   We talked a bit about this today and I would like to make it 4 inches thicker (12 x 12) so we can reduce some of the rebar.  I will also put some holes thru the right side so I can thread rebar thru and tie these into the central column more easily...

A CAD drawing of the rib, done by the engineer.

Another sourcing issue was finding a company to handle my precast architectural ribs.  I contacted a bunch of companies, but the first round were all concerned that they didn’t have the skill to handle it.  They were mostly experienced with highway construction or sewer components.  They did point me toward some companies that could help (the key was to include the work “architectural” in my search for “precast concrete”), but I have not received quotes from those companies yet.

 

Website

The website development is going slow (no blog posts in more than 7 weeks doesn’t help).  I did some work on some pages (such as this inspiring one on urinals ;^)).   At this point, we have had nearly 7500 visitors from all over the world (check out the map on the right) with a max of 127 hits on Nov 14th.

For some reason, my comment system has stopped working on the home page.  I will try to figure that out, but it looks like you can still leave comments if you browse to the post thru the tree on the right.

On the Houzz site, they did a bit on Hobbit homes that I thought I should post a link to

Oh yea, if you are reading this in your email, that doesn’t work as well as clicking the link and reading it on the website…  You get the pictures that way. ;^)  I also tend make a bunch of typo’s on my first draft that I catch 10 seconds after I post.  The live link includes any updates…

 

Eye Candy

And now the part you have all been waiting for…  A gallery of eye candy.

 

 

 

Resolution

I put this at the bottom so few will find it, but I here by resolve to create more, but much much shorter, posts for 2013 ;^)

November

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Posted on November 7, 2012 by

This is another status update…

Sourcing

Lately, I have been getting quotes on plumbing related things and learning a lot about Solar Hot Water…  I haven’t had time to do the page justice yet, but here is the start of my Solar Hot Water page.  I have seen that there are many ways that these systems are put together in terms of connections between the solar array and the hot water tank and between the hot water tank and the backup heating system…  Many of the ways seem like terrible ideas, but I will talk about that on the separate page.

We have also updated our well quotes and things seem to have gone up by 20% over the past year.  Now that I have an actual site plan, I planned to put the well quite some distance from the house, but apparently that is not a good idea and I will need to find a closer location.

Engineering

Today we had our 3rd face to face meeting with the engineer.  It was our first since our G8 summit (which I thought I had written about, but I guess I didn’t) 5 months ago.  I have offered to meet many times, but they have not been interested.  I think our architect prefers to stay between his customers and his engineer, or perhaps they didn’t think I would help, or perhaps they didn’t have time to meet with me.  What ever the reason, I really think this separation has wasted a lot of time for this particular engineering intensive project where I could have helped a lot.  The project was supposed to be done already, but it feels like we are just getting started with the engineering.

Anyway, we had the meeting to get on the same page.  I had been asking questions over email for months without any answers since July.  We asked for the meeting because the 5 pages I have received so far showed that the engineer was not getting or not understanding the long and detailed emails, ppts and other documents I was sending.  He appeared to be designing the steel arches to carry the full weight rather than seeing it as support for the rebar and Shotcrete, which would ultimately carry the full weight.  Plus, as he put it, he had made the design even more “robust” than it needed to be.   The problem for me is that his more “robust” design would cost many times more to build, to the point where it might break my budget and prevent me from moving forward with construction at all.

Rib support drawing

The Engineer came up with this design to support the inside end of the ribs. It was different than I had originally planned, but would allow me to setup the ribs before the shotcrete work began, which might save a lot of hassle, even if I had to pay a bit extra for the post. We also talked about adding some holes thru the vertical portion so we could thread rebar thru and better tie these into the central column of the home.

At the meeting, I asked if he had considered the dimensions of the steel and rebar shown in the example plans that I had sent him back on May 4th.   These were fully engineered plans for a similarly constructed earth sheltered home that I thought he could use as a reference; but he clearly didn’t recall seeing those at all.   This was frustrating because I have been referring back to those in many of my emails and he never even replied to ask what I was talking about.  He also didn’t appear to have looked at any of the ppts of construction photos I had sent him that showed the kind of arches and assembly process I was talking about.  He did have a print out of my most recent sketches, and that helped with the conversation.

I had brought in a list of topics to discuss.  These had been building up for 4 months and we went thru them one by one.  It only took about an hour.  He said that he would “revisit” what he had done so far with my smaller sized arches, rebar, etc. as shown in the other engineered drawings, but of course, he will need to prove out the math himself.  That sounded reasonable to me.

We also talked a little about some other aspect of the design that he was struggling with (the overhang off the front of the house) and I told him he could simplify the problem by adding pilasters on the outside that took the weight off the curved wall completely.  Hopefully he saw that as an example of how I could help simplify future discussions…  We will see.

Most importantly, we talked about needing to get all the drawings done in the next 3 months or so.  They agreed it would be “no problem”.

 

Website

I expect we will reach 5000 all time visitors this week (since June), last week alone we had 416 visitors…  Not bad considering I have hardly told anyone about the site.  I will start talking about it after the pages get filled in better or maybe not until we are actually ready to break ground…  I got a deal when I started my site to get 100$ worth of Google Adwords that I can use when I am ready.  Google Analytics tells me that the most popular search term used to find my site is still “The Hobbit” (brought in 135 visitors since June).  A search for “Earth Shelter”, my main focus, was only in 6th place and “Earth Tubes” were in 8th place.

 

Eye Candy

This is the part of the show where I just dump a gallery of pics I have been looking at or making lately…

October

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Posted on October 21, 2012 by

Last week I got to go out and help out with the earth shelter being constructed near Battle Creek.  As usual, there is nothing as enlightening as seeing things first hand…  If you are planning on building an earth sheltered home, I really recommend you find one in progress and visit as often as they will let you ;^)

Progress

When I got there, I saw that Scott (the home owner, GC and whatever other role is needed) had done a lot of work since the last visit in September.  He had completed the rebar work, including a second layer on the larger dome.  He had setup the ICF (Insulated Concrete Forms) on the south side and a pumper truck with a tall boom had come out to fill the forms for that front wall.  His carpenter had also installed most of the windows.

This close up shows the wires coming thru the two 1″ overlapping layers of butt jointed polystyrene and tied around the wood baton… On the back side, the wire wraps around the rebar, but loosly so there is room for the concrete to get between…

While other jobs were being done by professionals, the home owner had started on wiring up the polystyrene on the inside of the domes.  The polystyrene is used as backing to prevent the shotcrete (sprayed concrete) from just blowing right thru.  The basic process, as specified by Formworks Inc, involves carefully cutting sheets  of 1 inch thick polystyrene (what white coffee cups are made of) to fit in the space between the IBeams.  Two overlapping layers of butt jointed polystyrene need to be placed at once.  The attachment is made, starting on the outside of the dome, by taking a “u” shaped piece of wire placed around an intersection in the rebar and pushing it thru two layers of polystyrene.   The wire is wrapped around a thin wood baton that prevents it from simply pulling thru the polystyrene.  The polystyrene is installed loosely to the rebar, with at least “one finger” of slack in the wire, to allow the shotcrete to envelope the rebar.  Cutting the sheets to fit the 6 ft spans between the IBeams is a bit of a hassle, but making the precise cuts to fit two overlapping offset layers and wiring it all up is very time consuming.  Working high off the ground, where the shapes only get trickier, adds its own special pain.    Seeing that the cold weather was coming and he needed to speed things up, the homeowner called in some hired hands so he could be ready to shotcrete before the really cold weather hit.  They got the job finished in 10 working days.

This is a wider view of the insulation inside the smaller garage vault. A lot of effort went into this part of the puzzle.  You can see the light coming thru both layers.  I suspect things would have gone more smoothly if the outer cracks had been taped to prevent shotcrete from getting between the layers, but that is probably easier said than done with all the rebar in the way.

View from garage looking toward the larger main home vault thru the corridor. Keep in mind that this is two layers wired from the outside thru to the batons on the inside… A lot of time and effort I am sure…  The rebar will later be cut from this opening, but it is left in place to help hold the shape until the shotcrete hardens.

The “Formworks” process starts with the polystyrene on the inside as a backing for the shotcrete, but it doesn’t stay there.  After shotcrete, the polystyrene is removed and then used again on the outside as insulation (out-sulation) and protection for the waterproofing.  Since the insulation is usually pretty cut down or broken up by then, it doesn’t really form a nice continuous layer and additional insulation will probably be needed…

Electrical boxes and conduit were also set in place between the polystyrene and the rebar.  These will eventually be enveloped by the shotcrete, but open to the inside.  Of course, the electrical inspection had to be done before they “closed up the walls.”

Electrical boxes and conduit are wired to the rebar and will be set within the shotcrete. When the insulation is removed the front of the electrical boxes will be open to the inside of the earth sheltered home.

Ready for Shotcrete.  The front of the home was done with ICFs (Insulated Concrete Forms).

 

Back of the home, ready for shotcrete. The shiny silver is just the reflective backing on the polystyrene. It made the home look very space age though.   At one point, a large flock of cranes (maybe 100 of them) kept circling the house.  I wondered if they thought it looked a bit like water…  Scott commented that he noticed a lot of human traffic slow down as they passed by.

 

Shotcrete

This was the shotcrete crew’s first earth sheltered home, but they have lots experience with various other shotcrete structures, including some with shotcrete placed overhead.   I first spoke to Nate well over a year ago.  He stood out from the shotcrete guys I spoke to as someone who not only knew what earth sheltering was, but thought it was a good idea.  (one of the others said “you mean like a zoo habitat?  Why would you want to do that?”)  I meet up with him in a McDonald’s and he had almost as many pictures of earth sheltered homes on his computer as I had on mine… It turned out that he had already had meeting with another potential earth sheltered home builder who was also planning an earth sheltered house.  Not sure if Scott had to convince or educate him about earth sheltering, but I appreciated that he was already interested.  One thing lead to another, and I got Nate to introduce me to Scott so I could get some first hand experience.  Plus, how often do you get to see a contractor work on a similar project before you hire him?

Shotcrete uses a cement pump and a powerful air-compressor to blast (with air pressure) low slump cement onto the structure.  This concrete mix has much less water than a pourable mix, which results in higher strength (6500 psi in a week, 8000 psi in 28 days).  Also, the heavy sprayed cement is moving quickly (inertia) and compacts tightly as it hits the rebar and previous shotcrete without needing any vibration.  The result is a dense and very strong cement structure with no seams or cold joints.  One of the main benefits of shotcrete is that you don’t need traditional formwork, which means you are not as cost-constrained to building with straight walls.  However, it does help to have some sort of backing to control the shape and prevent some of the cement from being wasted (by just shooting right thru the wall).   The shotcrete stiffens quickly and locks on to the rebar and previous cement.  It easily spans over the many small (1 or 2 inch) gaps in the insulation.  The “gunner” starts with a thin layer and keeps the gun moving so the shotcrete has time to set before too much is added (so it doesn’t just slump off the wall).  They keep moving and gradually adding thickness to the cement until it reaches the specifications.  In this case, the engineered drawings specified 12 inches at the base tapering down to about 8 inches at the 10 ft level and then down to 4.5 inches at the top of the larger dome.  The top of the smaller dome only specified 4 inches.

With shotcrete design, some curvature is actually an asset as it helps the wall stand on its own without as much bracing (A curved piece of paper can stand on its edge) and a convex curve resists earth loads with less thickness or reinforcement…

 

I am sure the Shotcrete guys had lots of practice/experience with swimming pools, but this slippery, flimsy and loosely-wired polystyrene backing was new and there was a learning curve.  While the shotcrete thickness can be applied over several days without a “cold joint“,  they generally want to apply each pass as thickly as they can while moving around…  However, while that shotcrete is still setting, its weight, along with the impact force, is all against the polystyrene.  Also, since the polystyrene is only loosely wired to the rebar, it moved around alot as the shotcrete hit it and made a lot of noise (until some shotcrete thickeness built up).  During this shifting, gaps opened up, etc.   It is actually amazing that the easily broken stuff didn’t just tear off…  There were a few bulges where the rebar sagged and actually pushed in (from convex to concave, oil canning)….

This section of rebar bulged in, but we caught it on the inside and prevented the polystyrene from blowing out… They were able to chain it to the lift and pop it out again without any major damage.

There were also a few blowouts, where the polystyrene did actually fall apart.   It appeared that most of the blowouts happened when the weight of the wet shotcrete pushed the rebar so far inward that the polystyrene was stretched to the breaking point.   The other failure mode was when shotcrete got in between the layers of polystyrene and was able to flex and break of a piece of the inner layer…  I think that taping the cracks on the outside could have prevented this, but with all the rebar in the way, that is probably easier said than done.   When there was a blowout, the polystyrene and hundreds of pounds of cement came down with an awful crashing sound (I was inside about 25 ft away at the time of the largest one).

Before each blowout, we saw shotcrete pea stone pouring in between the overlapping layers and then the wall started to bulge inward.  If you can stop it then, you can prevent the blowout!  Then the shotcrete between the layers started to push into the vault and cracked off corners of the inner layer.  These cracks freed the batons and then it all came down.  All in just seconds…   Since shotcrete between the layers started the chain of events, closing those outer gaps (with tape) is probably the most important preventative measure.  Taping the inner cracks is not nearly as important.

Blowout!

After the big blowout, Scott decided to “phone a friend”.  The other supports seen in this picture were improvised in a hurry to combat “bulging”.  It probably prevented a few other blowouts before the shotcrete crew slowed down.

Scott handled the roof caving in pretty calmly.  While the shotcrete gunners proceeded (with more caution) on to other areas, Scott called in a friend and we quickly assembled some scaffolding and replaced the insulation.  We also added more batons to stiffen similar areas, but I am not sure how much difference that made since it wasn’t the batons or polystyrene that failed.

I was really worried about further blowouts, particularly since we hadn’t got to the even larger home dome yet.  But it turned out that “practicing” on the garage was a good idea.  I was only there for day 1, but I was told that they didn’t have any blowouts or issues on the main vault over the next few days.

The lift is used to apply shotcrete to the tops of the domes

 

I had posted a time-lapse video of the process right here, but after 5 years, the shotcrete contractor asked us to take it down and remove his name from these posts because he was getting criticism in the comment section. I am pretty sure he had no legal grounds, but I decided to oblige him anyway.

 

Lessons Learned

Between scrambling to shore up bulges or fix blowouts, there was time to chat with the homeowners, shotcrete crew and cement mixer drivers on the site.   We talked about a range of things from the cost of job site insurance to the hidden costs of heating systems to the suggestion to install cheap steel doors to close up the house (security) during construction (while the nice doors are safely away from contractors dents and scrapes.)   Some shovel based civil engineering had been done to clear water from the site, but it was clear that the shotcrete crew was struggling a little with the steep banks close to the site (although sometimes it seemed helpful to shoot from the banks.)  I reinforced my mental note to grade around my site more carefully.

During my previous visit, I was impressed with how well the Formworks steel and rebar system was designed, but this time, I was very glad I was not following their process for the polystyrene shotcrete backing.   The polystyrene worked, but it seemed like my pegboard/particleboard plan would be better in almost every respect.  The polystyrene backing required a lot of time-consuming cutting to get the two overlapping layers.  This is easier when you have the IBeam flange to hide the edge or when your arches are parallel, but I would have neither.  Also, with the Formworks plan, the polystyrene is inside the IBeams and tied, somewhat loosely, to the rebar to provide room for the concrete.   This loose polystyrene shifts a lot when the rebar hits it, and in some cases, allowed shotcrete between the layers.  In all the “post shotcrete” pics I have seen on the Formworks website, this process leaves a somewhat rough final finish on the inside of the dome because the edges never quite line up and the gaps between butt joints are at least an inch deep.  Conversely, the polystyrene itself is actually too smooth, which makes it difficult for the shotcrete to grip.  It is also brittle (easily broken).  The polystyrene is also relatively expensive and I don’t buy the argument that the cost is offset because it can be “re-used” as insulation.  By the time you take that polystyrene down, it is so chopped up that it will be impossible to form any sort of continuous layer, even overlapping it like shingles.

I have seen burlap used on other earth shelters (such as the Project Michigan Earth Shelter videos available on Vimeo).  It is cheaper and doesn’t need to be removed, but it sags and gives a very ugly appearance on the inside that is not something you can just plaster over…

I had preferred the pegboard plan.  It is cheaper than the polystyrene, and strong enough that one layer is sufficient.  It is harder to cut, but if you overlap the pieces a little and not need to cut as often.  Also, with the 1/2 inch tube arches, you can tie it tightly to the inside of the arches and properly control the cement thickness around the rebar.  Also, the pegboard provides better grip for the shotcrete and would prevent some sagging.   It also provides better control of the final shape and the little quarter inch thick posts left over after the pegboard is removed provide a nice final surface for plastering the inside of the vaults.  We actually plan to use “SpecFinish”, which is a fine sand-based shotcrete, on the inside of the vaults.

However, one of the shotcrete guys pointed out that the downside of the pegboard was its susceptibility to moisture.  While the polymerized linseed oil on the surface of the hardboard gives it some water resistance, the drilled holes provide easy access for water to soak the wood fibers inside.  I would need to worry about rainy weather and the moisture of the shotcrete its self.   Also, once shotcrete mushroomed thru the holes, it may have been much harder than the polystyrene to remove later.

Apparently, the shotcrete crew had recently shot a movie set where expanded metal lath was used as the backing  (some storm-related movie, “Black Clouds” or something like that where they needed to do a flood scene).  They said the metal lath was the easiest thing they ever worked with.  The Metal lath has all the advantages of the peg board, except it is a little more expensive (20%) at roughly 35 cents per square ft.  It also has some additional advantages such as; being relatively impervious to weather, adding reinforcement and not needing to be removed after the shotcrete is applied.  Metal lath can be cut-to-fit on site with a hand-held grinder, or the sheets can just be overlapped and wired together.  The metal lath is stronger than the other options and can actually be walked on during the shoot (but mine will be below the rebar anyway).  It also holds its shape under the weight and impact of the shotcrete better than most other backings.   The shotcrete comes thru the metal lath just enough to mushroom out the other side and hide most of the metal.  This provides a nice evenly-rough surface on the inside, ideal for finishing.  I already talked to my architect and engineer about switching to metal lath.

I also noticed how much pea stone was “rebounding” off the wall and being raked away…  In my design, vaults meet at the bottom and I was concerned about where all that pea stone getting stuck between the vaults.  I discussed this with the shotcrete contractor and he said it would be a bit of a problem.  We will need to remove it, even if it means scooping it out with buckets…  On the other hand, my vaults are not nearly as tall as the earth shelter near battle creek, so it won’t be as much pea stone anyway.

 

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Next, I hope to head out to help with the waterproofing on the shelter.  More on that later.